November 23, 2017

Q&A – Realistic vs. ambitious goals for early literacy skills

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Great question from Beth:

I have seen where there is a chart to show what a realistic vs. ambitious goal for Rate of Improvement is for R-CBM or Oral Reading Fluency but is there a chart like that for Letter Naming Fluency or Letter Sound Fluency?  Or can the ROI charts for R-CBM charts be used for other areas of progress monitoring as well??

Response:

The majority of research studies that I have come across have been related to determining expected growth for oral reading fluency, most likely because it is the most popular form of CBM.  The study below is the study where the growth charts originated from for digits correct and oral reading fluency.

Fuchs, L. S., Fuchs, D., Hamlett, C. L., Walz, L., & Germann, G. (1993). Formative evaluation of academic progress: How much growth can we expect? School Psychology Review, 22, 27-48.

The idea of realistic and ambitious goal setting is also described in more detail in a chapter of Best Practices for School Psychologist, Volume 5.

Shapiro, E. S. (2008). Best practices in setting progress monitoring goals for academic skill improvement. In A. Thomas and J. Grimes (Eds.), Best practices in school psychology V.  (Vol. 2, pp. 141-157). Bethesda, MD: National Association of School Psychologists.

The amount of growth you can expect from students is dependent on a number of factors such as the intensity, duration, and frequency of the intervention; the skill being measured, and the fidelity with which the intervention is delivered.  You may want to see if the assessment system you are using includes norms for rate of improvement.  If none are provided, then you could calculate the typical ROI for students based on the expected benchmark scores and use that as a comparison.  Remember that students scoring below benchmark would require an ROI that is more than the ROI of their typical peers in order to close the achievement gap.  There are many dissertations to be had in this area! It would be great to have more published, peer reviewed studies that review the progress students typically make with specific skills given specific interventions.

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Q&A – ROI for non-normed measures

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Great question from Amber:

For the past two years, I have worked in an Educational Life Skills Program for students with significant cognitive disabilities.  Last year, we discovered a progress monitoring tool called “Significant Cognitive Disabilities” developed by The Research Institute on Progress Monitoring. (you can go to www.progressmonitoring.org for more information) We thought that this would be an excellent tool to track our students growth since the CBM’s on AIMSweb were too difficult for most of our students.  Our special education teachers and aides learned all of the different assessments and began testing our students weekly and tracking their progress in an Excel file.  At that time, I had an intern who was great at Excel and created the graphs that we needed. Now with pressure added to demonstrate growth in student performance, and then use that information to guide instruction, we were looking for a better way to show rate of improvement.  This is when I happened upon your wonderful webpage! You all provide a lot of useful information, but I have an important question that may just be unique for my program.  I need to create a better graph(s) than what we have. I have to show rate of improvement. When I read through your Diego example, I learned that you show ROI by graphing slope. However, slope is determined by benchmark data. We dont have any predetermined benchmark data, just progress monitoring data which varies greatly from student to student and of course by different assessments. The progress monitoring tool that we are using was never normed. We were hoping to norm it using our population of students and then have ROI data. Is it possible to create a graph that will show ROI data per student, per grade, and then program wide? If so, how? Thank you very much for taking the time to read this message.

Response:

A previous Q&A was referring to calculating average ROI for groups of students. The directions on that post are one way of calculating average ROI for groups of students.  You may want to review information on how to create local benchmarks; however, if the students’ scores vary considerably, it might not make sense to make local benchmarks.

Stewart, L. H. & Silberglitt, B. (2008). Best practices in developing academic local norms. In A. Thomas and J. Grimes (Eds.) Best practices in school psychology V. (Vol. 2, pp. 225-242). Bethesda, MD: National Association of School Psychologists.

You could certainly set up your Excel spreadsheets so that you have all of your students per grade on one sheet, then choose to graph their data individually to see if growth is occurring.  If you organize the students by grade level for the whole program, you could then graph grade-level data as well.

Keep in mind, too, that depending on the type of data you are graphing, sometimes the visual analysis is sufficient and a ROI statistic (i.e., slope) does not always make sense.

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Q&A – Calculating average ROI for a group of students

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Great question from Pamela:

Oregon sped regulations for LD referral through RTI specify that ROI needs to be calculated for the RTI group so that the individual ROI can be compared to the RTI group ROI. How do I set up an Excel spreadsheet for that purpose? Do I average CBM scores across students in the group and then compare the group linear regression statistic to the individual linear regression statistic? How do I get Excel to fill in the average for me?

Response:

If you used a spreadsheet similar to the ones on this web site, individual student ROI is calculated for you.  If you highlighted that column, you could enter a formula that will calculate the average of those ROIs to give you a group comparison.  To answer your question directly, yes that is one way you could calculate average group ROI.

 

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Q&A – Monitoring progress for high school students

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Great question from Travis:

Can the ROI graphs/templates be carried over to use with high school students who we are progress monitoring with?

 

Response:

Yes.  Some schools continue to monitor basic skills for students in high school, including students in special education.  Be sure to use the benchmarks for the grade level of probes on which the student is being monitored.

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Q&A – Using ROI for principal evaluations

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Great question from Kim:

I am a principal in Illinois and am required to set student growth goals as a part of my annual evaluation. I am trying to get a clear understanding of ROI and came across your powerpoint presentations online. I am hoping you can help me understand the rational of the procedure I am being told to use.First, I calculate the growth rates for students using their BOY and EOY DIBELS scores from last year. Then I’m supposed to multiply that by 1.5 (Fuchs’ ambitious goal) to determine each student’s ROI for this year from BOY to MOY using AIMSweb (the district changed measures this year). Finally, I set an overall growth target by which I will be evaluated. For example, “75% of 3rd grade students will reach their ROI targets from BOY to MOY benchmarks.”

I am struggling with the constant, 1.5. I can see setting ambitious goals for students below benchmark, but if a student is already well above benchmark, and will obviously not receive Tier II or Tier III intervention, is it reasonable to expect their rate of improvement to increase 150%? Any advice you can provide will be GREATLY appreciated.

Response:

Andy and I had responded to this email individually, but this a great point that should be mentioned.  There are a couple of studies that illustrated that students performing at the highest and lowest levels on benchmark assessments tend to make the least amount of growth.  That doesn’t mean we can’t expect students to make gains, but we need to be aware that our highest and lowest performing students will require extra effort to improve their achievement gains over time.

Fien, H., Park, Y., Baker, S. K., Smith, J. L. M., Stoolmiller, M., & Kame’enui, E. J. (2010). An examination of the relation of nonsense word fluency initial status and gains to reading outcomes for beginning readers. School Psychology Review, 39, 631-653.

Good, R. H., Wheeler, C. E., Cummings, K. D., Baker, S. K., Fien, H., & Kame’enui, E. J. (2010, March). Rigorous RtI decisions: Normative growth rates for oral reading fluency. Paper presented at the meeting of the National Association of School Psychologists Annual Convention in Chicago, IL.

Silberglitt, B., & Hintze, J. M. (2007). How much growth can we expect? A conditional analysis of R-CBM growth rates by level of performance. Exceptional Children, 74, 71-84.

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Q&A – Rate of improvement for EasyCBM

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Great question from Leasha:

Please help! Our new state policy manual has listed your website as the place to go for calculating our rate of learning for the upcoming school year. Pretty much every county in the state uses Dibels so it is set up and ready to go for them. However, my county uses EasyCBM for reading. Is it possible for me to just edit the benchmark goals, and then the Excel would calculate it properly for students entered, or would I need to do some special tweaking?

My Response:

Absolutely! You can adjusts the benchmarks to whatever you need them to be and the Excel sheet should automatically adjust the calculations for ROI.  Good luck!

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